Viewers will see the Earl of Grantham commit the ultimate betrayal as he shares a steamy kiss with his maid, Jane, on Sunday night. This series has an historian that spends a considerable amount of time making sure everything is correct to the time period so it is difficult to believe that is is an oversight. Downton Abbey Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Then Mary unwisely takes Marigold along with her son George and Cora to the Drewe's farm to view the pigs for the Moulton show where Mrs Drewe suddenly appears and has an emotional reunion with Marigold, whom she has clearly not got over even though its been months since the little girl left Yew Tree Farm. It's way too obvious and many people have noticed. I feel like all passionate DA fans would react like this. The Crawleys, getting the band back together in Downton Abbey. Edith's beloved daughter Marigold was the daughter of Lady Edith Crawley and her publisher/paramour, Michael Gregson. : , , . I've heard of very young children being purposefully tired out so they're quieter and less fidgety on camera, so it could be that? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Autistic children often look perfectly "right". I think that the casting director chose the twins who play Marigold for their resemblance . They tell her to stand here and be very quiet, or sit here and eat this. Then at the Moulton show, everyone comes including the Drewes. -Marigold to her five-year-old first cousin Sybbie, following her return from Boston, United States, Cora: She's a dear little thing. Meanwhile the pharmaceutical companies also benefit from total indemnification from injuring anyone with their products. I challenge your knowledge of "Aspergers", which was declassified as a condition over 2 years ago when the new Austism Spectrum Disorder guidelines were introduced and your comment is only from 4 days ago. Think Nurture not just Nature. Marigold along with George watch Mrs Patmore prepare a cake, and they ask if they can lick the batter, later getting piggy back rides with Barrow. Timothy Drewe (former foster father)Margie Drewe (former foster mother)Peter Drewe (former foster brother)Billy Drewe (former foster brother)Unnamed former foster sisterRobert Crawley (maternal grandfather)Cora Crawley (maternal grandmother)Mirada Pelham (step-grandmother)Mary Talbot (maternal aunt)Sybil Branson (maternal aunt) Matthew Crawley (maternal marital uncle) Tom Branson (maternal marital uncle)Henry Talbot (maternal marital uncle) Sybbie Branson (maternal first cousin)George Crawley (maternal first cousin)Caroline Talbot (maternal first cousin)Violet Crawley (great-grandmother)Patrick Crawley (great-grandfather) Rosamund Painswick (grand-aunt)Martha Levinson (great-grandmother)Isidore Levinson (great-grandfather) Harold Levinson (grand-uncle)Victoria Rachel Cora Aldridge (maternal third cousin)Reginald Crawley (maternal third cousin twice removed)Isobel Grey (third cousin-in-law twice removed) Finally watched the movies recently and I told my wife I Charles Blake won me over with this little sweet scene. I noticed she seemed tired or shy compared to the others, too. Edirh gently movied an ornate ornamen, moving itt slowly back and forth in front in Marigold's face Not once but twice, the little girl could not follow the ornament, but looked totally askance with a blank expression..Even a four month old can follow an object. The family is happy to go, but Mr. Carson does not approve at all. As many viewers noticed when Marigold first appeared on the series, the actresses playing the character changed after only a couple of episodes. Perhaps she is just bored with the whole process, by the time they get around to her part. That doesn't sound dreadful to me. Marigold je nelegitimn dcerou Edith Crawleyov, kter ji poala s Michaelem Gregsonem jet ped jejich plnovanm satkem. There are some candids of her with the actors--mainly LC--onset and she looks like a normal, happy child. Mary and Robert object to Edith's announcement at adopting Marigold, but Robert agrees after Cora insists they offer Marigold a home in the Downton nursery. Does anyone think that maybe the second girl has Down's Syndrome? Her Marigold was a well-to-do farmgirl named after an aunt. A dear little thing (by her maternal grandmother)Darling (by her mother Edith)Miss Marigold (by Downton's servants and her aunt) There's something not right about the child that plays Marigold. Tom Morley. It's been said that the children tire quickly, and get bored, and so their "parents" play with them to keep up their interest. Youre not the first in this sub to ask. As a new Downton fan I have just watched all the episodes and this is my first visit to this Wiki when I see this forum right on the home page I joined so I could comment on your comments. . Things are about to get steamy at the Grantham country house in Downton Abbey. Marigold along with her cousins, Sybbie and George, along with their parents, watch a small puppet show performed by Bertie and Tom. Full episode guide for Downton Abbey Season 1 Episode 1 A telegram arrives and we learn the Titanic is sunk. So your judgements are based on viewing upwards of 4 to 6 different people, not just one. It is not that she is tried, or doesn't understand understand what is going on around her it is the fact she simply doesn't care. Where did you get the ridiculous idea, that a child with Asperger's can't follow an object with its eyes? ! This is not the first time someone in this sub has questioned whether the actresses/character had developmental delays, and it truly confuses me. . About Highclere Castle (Downton Abbey). The work and court case that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. forwarded in legal discovery was that there has never been one safety study on any vaccine. Welcome to the Downton Abbey subreddit, a place to discuss all things related to the show, the 2 feature films, the cast and the real-life history/context . I absolutely cannot believe what I am reading on this forum. There's something not right about the child that plays Marigold. The three eldest children, Sybbie (Fifi Hart), George, and Marigold (Eva and Karina Samms), are still children who innocently play and are warmly coddled in Downton Abbey: A New Era. Marigold (Eva Karina Samms) with her loving mother, Lady Edith. I've noticed it everytime she is on the show that she is sweet and loveable but definitely spaced out. She goes to Yew Tree Farm and explains to Mrs Drewe that she is Marigold's real mother. Lady Edith is faced with a tough decision when she discovers she is pregnant with married Michael Gregson's child. For those who have mentioned autism and the child playing Marigold, I've a comment. Any are you actually suggested the show use the Dowager's Countess' sarcasm to mock a child who may have a developmental disability. Oh, I dunno. What other things that are different from your "normal" do you consider "not right"? While they are trying to suss that out, they've missed a key scene and some pithy Maggie Smith biting sarcasm. Many memorable characters have returned to the country estate as the films continue, including some of "Downton Abbey"s most loved child stars. The teaser. What happens to Marigold on Downton Abbey? Is Marigold on Downton Abbey autistic? It almost breaks up Edith & Bertie. Is she Autistic? Kitty Colthurst 1 episode, 2014. Does Edith also resemble her parents? They'd look at you with that blank expression or like "who are you, why are you talking to me, go away" type thing. It always bothered me how she was so spaced out. She continues: Youre not content ruining your own life, you also want to ruin mine. Edith also calls her out for being wrong, saying Henrys perfect for her. Possibly, Rosamund may have been counting the weeks or so that she knew that Edith was pregnant and then the many months in Geneva with Edith during her pregnancy. Downstairs, Mrs Hughes questions if Marigold will ever be told of her true identity. ------. Read on for more from our 'Downton Abbey' recap! Cora reveals Marigold will have moved to her stepfather's estate of Brancaster Castle in Northumberland by the end of Edith and Bertie's honeymoon. I can't begin to guess what is "wrong" (or, different) about this child, but the producers of Downton knew they had a hit show and continued using this child actress. You can't imagine the confusion going on on the other side of the cameras. Autistic children often look perfectly "right". Even if Marigold was a legitimate child, she cannot be called "Lady" because her biological father was not titled. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I have a downs syndrome child and he is grown now but I don't think she is down syndrome but she does seem to be a bit off. Down syndrome children has definite physical characteristics which she doesn't have. Viewers will see the Earl of Grantham commit the ultimate betrayal as he shares a steamy kiss with his maid, Jane, on Sunday night. The 10 Best Downton Abbey Episodes. 2. I think that the casting director chose the twins who play Marigold for their resemblance . She goes up to Ediths room as shes crying and packing. But outside of the ITV series, it seems that they haven't acted in anything else, according to their IMDb pages. This episode is all waterworks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Liittynyt syyskuu 2010. Lack of tracking with the eye, lack of eye contact, lack of emoting, lack of speech/delayed speech, lack of responding to inquiries and cues, etc. Lord Robert Crawley, Earl of Grantham (Hugh Bonneville) sees his family heritage, especially the grand country home Downton Abbey, as his mission in life. Photograph of infant Marigold; sometime in late 1922 or early 1923. I think anonymous user meant the twins. on Christmas Day 2015 on a relatively high note (unlike the 2012 Christmas special): Edith married Bertie Pelham - despite him originally calling off the engagement due to finding out about her daughter Marigold. You are the one who needs to beenlightened before you speak; after having done so I am certain we can all lighten up. That doesn't sound dreadful to me. She was played by twins Eva and Karina Samms. Bertie storms off and says he cant marry someone he doesnt trust, or someone who doesnt trust him. Songs and music featured in Downton Abbey Soundtrack. Thoughts on Dan playing the Beast? Philip Wallace. The series, set in the fictional Yorkshire country estate of Downton Abbey. I have a son who is 50 he was born with CP and other disabilities. She's had to settle for being an extremely talented movie director instead. Marigold may have inherited some of her mother's traits. Edith basically holds a neon sign over her head constantly: "I'm her mother!" Extended However much I love him, I will always love you, she says. During the war, Downton Abbey is temporarily converted into an officers' convalescent hospital. The official home of Downton Abbey. or is seriously traumatized to fein the kind of passivity that is NOT normal for a child of any age.. either which way, there is something askew about dear sweet, young, appearing to be traumatized, marigold whoever is directing, producing, financing this $netflix money maker should have and hopefully WILL make the hard decision to replace their marigold character to those of us who quite frankly see what you see, this is inexcusable .. get on it do what you should have done. You people are looking way too deeply into this. Marigold (late December, 1922 or early January 1923) is the illegitimate daughter and only child of Edith Pelham and the late Michael Gregson. Full episode guide for Downton Abbey Season 1 Episode 1 A telegram arrives and we learn the Titanic is sunk. I think she's just a little girl who doesn't quite understand what's going on. Marigold and Edith Because of the taciturnity and often blank expression of the little girl who plays Marigold Gregson on Downton Abbey, I wondered if the character was supposed to have developmental problems. As the sixth and final series of Downton Abbey hits the box this September, we invite you to take a tour of some of the TV show's most memorable film locations - and help plan your pilgrimage to some of them. : , , . Finally I would like to say that I am surprised this forum was not completely removed from this site by the administrators for the condemnation of this child's physical attributes towards an unsubstantiated developmental disability is no different than if the comments had pertained to race or religion. It's actually possible to imagine a new TV series spun off in The Downton Abbey movie is not as spectacularly star-studded as Gosford Park, but it's got its share of A-list talent, however: Maggie Smith, of course. The episode also revealed that the Attack Titan has a special ability that allows its wielders to see the memories of future inheritors.The episode, "Memories of the Future," confirmed that the current Attack Titan user cannot willfully see the future, he can only see what future inheritors show him. MORE: Everything we know so far about the Downton Abbey film sequel In the sweet snap, brothers Oliver and Zac Barker - who play Master George Crawley - Fifi Hart who stars as Lady Sibby and. It gives me no joy to agree with many there, but thr you have it, Geesh, such ignorance! I am sorry for the child in reality but truly don't we agree that Edith has had enough struggle in her life to now mother a distant minded child. A Duke arrives to court Lady Mary, but he's more of a man's man. Hopefully this should melt the miserable ice queens heart, for good. Related: Or have only I noticed this because I tend to pay particular attention to child actors in things I watch? Not really an actress. If you're in the know of what to look for, the presentation of those kids raise all the warning bells, I also thought she was kinda weird but some kids are. That doesn't sound dreadful to me. Boredom instead of suicide psychosis or simply sadness instead of diagnosed depression, indifference instead of autism or asperger, liveliness instead of hyperactivity requiring medial tratments etc. DwntnAbby Fan wrote: I challenge your knowledge of "Aspergers", which was declassified as a condition over 2 years ago when the new Austism Spectrum Disorder guidelines were introduced and your comment is only from 4 days ago. However, Rosamund says - in Episode 5.05 - that she spent "10 months" of her life making sure the baby came safely. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Americana Group Annual Report 2019, He calls her out on being a grubby little gold digger and she storms off, (her words, not his). I think we are all smart enough to realize that she is an actor but all actors big or little get directions form the director and the scene must be the way he wants it protrayed so it must be part of the stroy line. Gender I don't know if they were just trying too hard to cast a baby who looked like Gregson and ended up with the most stoned-looking child in existence, or if it's intentional and Fellowes means to kick Edith in the teeth again by exposing that Marigold is mentally disabled or something and rousing another scandal. why not bring up even Down Syndrome while we're at? It's hard to watch. Thank you! Yew Tree Farm, Yorkshire, England (formerly)Geneva, Switzerland (formerly). So secure does it appear that it seems as if the way it represents will last for another thousand years. It was presumed that she would make frequent visits to Downton, to be with her mother's . Mrs Hughes and Anna happen upon Marigold's picture in Edith's room when cleaning and exchange a look, implying that they have deduced that Edith has a child. With only one more episode of Downton Abbey left, episode seven proved to be a real emotional rollercoaster as I laughed, I cried and I even cheered for Lady Edith! Tom yells at Mary for what she did to Edith, calling her a bully and a coward. Perhaps she is just bored with the whole process, by the time they get around to her part. We are there legally to ensure the child's health and safety and emotional needs are being met on set. He was the employer and lover of Lady Edith Crawley, and the late father of her only daughter, Marigold. She seemed a bit off to me as well, especially once they switched actors. Henry pays an unexpected visit and Lady Mary is miserable about it as he says he wont give up. There's something not right about the child that plays Marigold. It's clearly just a case of the actresses needing to get used to the set. It made sense to not give Marigold many lines because of how much was going on around her and getting used to different places to live. I remember when the much older Sofia Coppola showed a similar lack of affect in "Godfather 3". 4. The Whitney twins made "a VERY brief appearance in episode 7" according to the viewer, but the Samms twins went back to playing Marigold after that. I think that the casting director chose the twins who play Marigold for their resemblance . She's just a kid. I thought the same years ago and mentioned to a family member. Downton Abbey Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Oh, I dunno. At the house, they cant stop laughing about the news Anna tells Lady Mary, and they cant control their fit of laughter. 2 Replies. 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